Question about 2003 Chrysler PT Cruiser
The MIL came on 1 month ago. The engine was OK. The codes were P0440 and P0456. I changed the gas cap and cleared the codes. I tried to do that several times but the MIL came on again and again in 1 or 2 driving days (not more than 30 miles a day). The codes were the same. I checked the hoses. Nothing interesting is. Is there a solution? I would be thankful for good advice.
1) Determine the engine code cause for the Check Engine Light (C.E.L. or CEL)
2) Insert key into ignition
3) turn key to "on" posittion without starting the vehicle
4) VERY VERY quickly turn the key off one click, then on, then off, then on; cycling for 3 turns of the key (NOTE: you might have to try this a couple of times to get it just right)
5) leave on, and read the engine diagnostic code(s) that are output in the mileage counter
6) We got Code P0440 (or P 0440 or P-0440) (variations inserted for search engines)
7) A quick search of the web yielded about 3 or 4 usefull details.
8) Diagnostic code P0440 is the Evaporative Emissions Control System Malfunction (failure) of some type. Details of this type of failure and what the Evap System does for you:
9) Other web pages indicated it might be as simple as the Gas Cap being seated incorrectly, or not sealing correctly any more
10) I took it off, yes it was seated incorrectly, and reseatted it firmly
11) Now you need to clear the Check Engine Light indicator (it will clear *eventually* over time if this is TRULY the problem - I recommend you clear it now - that way is a deeper problem with the EVAP system exists, it should come on again - giving another clue something else is amiss
12) One suggestion was to take the Negative (black) cable off the battery for 10 to 20 seconds -- I did - for 30 seconds to be sure
13) You *must* turn the Engine on and start the vehicle all the way before the Check Engine Light might clear - if it doesn't try the following:
14) Turn the ignition on 50 times - yes - 50 times - but be careful, every time you cycle the ignition on (without starting the vehicle) you are turning on the Fuel Pump - continuous cycling can theoretically (according to some posts) cause it to heat up and be damaged - so every 10 times stop and let it rest for a full minute to cool down.
15) After 30 times of doing this (3 sets of 10), turn the engine fully on - see if the check engine light goes off) if it doesn't, do the remaining 20 times (2 sets of 10).
16) if it still doesn't go off, you may have a deeper issue that might require attention of the mechanics
Posted on Oct 05, 2008
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Info found at: http://www.obd-codes.com/p0456
Maybe try cleaning, tightening, or replacing the gas cap first?
P0456 Article by Dale Toalston ASE Certified Technician
Evaporative Emissions System - Small leak detected
The Powertrain Control Module (PCM) at different times performs various tests on the EVAP system. OBD II Enhanced EVAP systems are in place to keep fuel tank vapors from venting into the atmosphere, and instead purges them into the engine to be burned. Regular pressure tests are conducted by the PCM to monitor the sealed system for leaks. The PCM monitors the EVAP system pressure by watching the fuel tank pressure (FTP) sensor. When the sensor indicates a small leak in the EVAP system, this code is set.
There will likely be no noticeable symptoms other than the Malfunction Indicator Lamp (MIL). This is because the EVAP system is a closed system and only controls fuel tank vapors, not engine management.
Usually this P0456 code is caused by an incorrect or faulty gas cap. Filling the fuel tank with the engine running could conceivable cause this code as well or if the cap wasn't properly tightened. Any of the following could also be the cause: - A small leak in any of the EVAP hoses or fuel tank hoses - A small leak in the purge valve or vent valve - The EVAP Canister may be leaking Possible Solutions:
- A small leak in any of the EVAP hoses or fuel tank hoses
- A small leak in the purge valve or vent valve
- The EVAP Canister may be leaking
First, using a scan tool activate the vent solenoid, sealing the system. Then monitor the fuel tank pressure (FTP) sensor. If the system is sealing properly, the number will stay consistent. If is isn't, the pressure sensor will show that as well. If the system slowly leaks, use a smoke machine and watch for smoke exiting the system at any EVAP component. Any where there is smoke exiting the system, that is the faulty component. Do not pressurize the EVAP system with air pressure. Doing so can damage the purge and vent solenoids in the system.
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