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Brakes start to bind then lock on and the brake pedal becomes hard, tested the servo and ok

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  • smudger120 Sep 29, 2008

    thanks have checked the calipers all ok

    when started to seize up loosened pipe on the master cylinder and the brakes freed again

    i think that the master cylinder is corroded or scored

  • andyc1 Oct 06, 2008

    Hi, i have a similar problem on a Peugeot Expert 1.9 van. I've had all the calipers checked and all ok. I've also had the master cylinder changed and problem is still there. no idea what to do next.

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Have the calipers checked could be seizing, or the little pistons on the calipers are not sliding properly.

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  • turbit123 Oct 01, 2008

    could be air in the lines or your booster

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