At 122000 mls on turbo estate the clutch bites almost as soon as you depress the pedal and paranoia aids detection of occasional slipping! Sadly only able to do simple repairs now, would like to know how many hours work a competent garage should charge for fitting a complete new clutch? Is there anything else I should ask them to change/check at the same time? Gearbox oil? Thanks.
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Re: Peugeot 405 1996 clutch
I would get three qoutes from the clutch specialist in your area. Labour charges vary from area to area. If I was to give you a rough idea of the labour time and price, I could be out by a fair margin. I think this is your best option. Also the garage that do the repair should top up your gearbox oil as a matter of course. It will not hurt to ask through.
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The reason for the high biting point is simple. The clutch is made of 3 main components.
The pressure plate friction plate and the release bearing.
The more times clutch is depressed the concentric spring fingers wear in 2 ways . Firstly by good old metal to metal rubbing and secondly the concentric spring fingers don't return as far as a new one causing the release bearing or csc to adjust .
When the pressure plate concentric spring gingers wear they don't sit proud and require more pedal effort to depress. .
When they loose there spring like feature they require a greater distance from the release bearing. Or it has to travel further to depress them to lift The pressure plate and fee the friction plate from the lay shaft on which it is splined onto to give you drive once released.
The further back the bearing has to travel to allow the fingers to clamp the pressure plate to the friction plate . The more the clutch has become worn and unserviceable.
Self adjustment on hydraulic clutches are a hard one to gauge as you have no idea how far the piston has moved out to compensate for this wear . With a cable you can physically see the wear and adjust .
High biting points on any car are useless. You want a biting point to be 2 to 3 inches from the top and not nearly level with the brake pedal.
Anyway it seems apparent that Peugeot and Citroen both have high to almost no point at which they bite .
I myself would modify this as an engineer.
But it seems to be normal on these cats to have absolutely no biting point worth talking about.
My sisters 2012 206 1.4 is a very high biting point and I myself would not be happy with it . It gives u no indication of a worn clutch if its self adjusting.
Alll hydraulic clutches are self adjusting. So why are Peugeot and Citroens sooo high. Its ridiculous.
A very idiotic idea and I'm taking it back with her and I'm complaining. Hopefully I should get somewhere and ill update you all
Hello, Who installed the clutch"? Were there a new pressure plate installed?
Were there a new throw out bearing installed. Does this 1991 Peugeot 405 have
hydraulic or mechanical clutch linkage?
There a couple of reason why the Peugeot wont move and engine is running and
the transmission is in gear.
1.. Pressure plate is installed backwards.--Remove transmission and reinstall
pressure plate in the correct orientation to the clutch. There is two ways to
install it, but one way correctly.
2. Adjustment for the clutch linkage from the pedal in the driver compartment
is adjusted to tight and not releasing the clutch to where the clutch pressure
is on the pressure plate.
usually you should do it for peugeot diesel at 122000 miles along with water pump and the tensioner roller that runs under the cambelt too. But to be on the safe side do it at 100000 and save the fortune.
It took me (DIY job) about 6-8 hours as i wanted to save 450 pounds.
first i would try adjusting the clutch cable because commonly people with think that they're clutch is going out when really just the cable has gotten stretched....try adjusting that first and if that works then you should be fine for another couple thousand miles but if you want to not have to worry bout it for awhile i would just replace teh clutch assembly....usually ranges from $200 to $450 depending on the clutch set and the mechanic that does the work for you. Let me know what happens. :)