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How to set timing

Idler pulley broke. need to set timing right.

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Please could you give me a diagram of the valve timing of a double O.H.C.on a toyota Rav4 3SFE engine

no year(94-present) stated. and under kia dont help much.

its at alldtata.com, i read all the steps and not skip one, I WOULD.

wild guess, #1 a 2005 RAV4
2.0L 3sfe. inline 4 cylinder, not V6


here is the one i see on the FSM.

my gates belts all come with a manual. RTM?
if you buy the belt at a dealer they assume you have the FSM.
right?
FSM, install, steps
  1. Install the oil pump pulley. Tighten the nut to 18 ft. lbs. (24 Nm).
  2. Install the crankshaft timing pulley. Align the pulley set key with the key groove of the pulley. Slide on the pulley facing the flange side inward.
  3. Install the No. 2 idler pulley and tighten the mounting bolt to 31 ft. lbs. (42 Nm). Be sure that the pulley moves smoothly.
  4. Install the No. 1 idler pulley with the bolt and the tension spring. Pry the pulley toward the left as far as it will go and tighten the bolt. Make sure that the pulley moves smoothly.
  5. Temporarily install the timing belt. Using the crankshaft pulley bolt, turn the crankshaft and position the key groove of the crankshaft timing pulley upward. If reusing the timing belt, align the points marked during removal.
  6. Install the timing belt on the crankshaft timing pulley, oil pump pulley, No. 1 idler pulley, water pump pulley and the No. 2 idler pulley.
  7. Install the timing belt guide.
  8. Install the lower (No. 1) timing belt cover and new gasket with the 4 bolts.
  9. Align the crankshaft pulley set key with the pulley key groove. Temporarily install the crankshaft pulley and bolt.
  10. Align the camshaft knock pin with the groove of the pulley, and slide the timing pulley onto the camshaft with the plate washer and set bolt.
  11. Tighten the pulley set bolt to 40 ft. lbs. (54 Nm).
  12. Turn the crankshaft pulley and align the 0 mark on the lower (No. 1) timing belt cover.
  13. Finish installing the timing belt and check the valve timing, as follows:
    1. If reusing the old timing belt, align the matchmarks made previously and install the timing belt onto the camshaft pulley.
    2. Align the marks on the timing belt with the marks on the camshaft pulley.
    3. Loosen the No. 1 idler pulley set bolt 1 / 2 turn.
    4. Turn the crankshaft pulley 2 complete revolutions TDC to TDC. ALWAYS turn the crankshaft CLOCKWISE. Check that the pulleys are still in alignment with the timing marks.
    5. If the No. 1 idler pulley uses a green tension spring, slowly turn the crankshaft pulley 1 7 / 8 revolutions, and align its groove with the mark at 45 degrees BTDC (for the No. 1 cylinder) of the No. 1 timing belt cover.
    6. Tighten the No. 1 idler pulley set bolt to 31 ft. lbs. (42 Nm).
    7. Be sure there is belt tension between the crankshaft and camshaft timing pulleys.
  14. Place the right-hand engine mounting bracket in position but do not install the bolts.
  15. Install the upper (No. 2) timing cover with a new gasket(s).
  16. Remove the engine crankshaft pulley bolt and pulley.
  17. Using SST 09249-63010, or equivalent, install the mounting bolts for the right-hand mounting bracket. Tighten the mounting bolts to 38 ft. lbs. (52 Nm).
  18. Align the crankshaft pulley set key with the pulley key groove. Install the pulley. Tighten the pulley bolt to 80 ft. lbs. (108 Nm).
  19. Install the spark plugs.
  20. Install the right-hand mounting insulator, as follows:
    1. Attach the mounting insulator to the body and mounting bracket with the 4 bolts and 2 nuts.
    2. Tighten the 3 bolts to hold the mounting insulator to the body. Tighten the bolts to 47 ft. lbs. (64 Nm).
    3. Tighten the 2 nuts and bolt to hold the mounting insulator to the mounting bracket. Tighten the bolt to 27 ft. lbs. (37 Nm) and the nut to 38 ft. lbs. (52 Nm).
  21. Install and adjust the power steering pump drive belt.
  22. Install the right-hand engine undercover.
  23. Install the right front wheel.
  24. Lower the engine.
  25. If equipped, install the ABS actuator.
  26. Install the alternator and alternator bracket.
  27. Install the wiring harness bracket for the DLC1.
  28. Install the power steering reservoir bracket and reservoir.
  29. Connect the negative battery cable.
  30. Start the engine and check the timing.

step 13.4 is never to be skipped. ask why., most do. and it fails.






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My idler pulley is very loose and serpentine belt not holding

do not start engine as will cause engine damage if tensioner is loose will nock the timing out
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What to do for a siren noise on the front right side under hood?

I am not a big fan of belt dressing ... especially when you are not sure if the problem is a:
  1. dirty belt ... or
  2. dirty pulley ... or
  3. bad bearing on a pulley (idler, tension, A/C, alt, PS)
If you are at all handy I would take the serpentine belt off and check it's condition. How to change the serpinetine belt on 97 saturn sl2 do we have to change...
Which pulley got replaced? the idler (on top) or the tensioner (lower down)? Usually the idler or tensioner go first before an equipment pulley on the alt or A/C or power steering units.
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How do you aline the timing marks on the cam and crank on a 97 toyota camry with a 2.2

Hi, the procedure is pasted below. There is a good rundown with pics at the following post:
http://www.toyotanation.com/forum/showthread.php?t=264429
Please let me know if you have questions.


REMOVAL & INSTALLATION
5S-FE Engines
  1. Remove the timing belt covers as previously detailed.
  2. Raise the engine just enough to remove the weight from the engine mount on the right side.
  3. Remove the thru-bolt, two nuts, and right hand mounting insulator.
  4. Remove the retaining bolts and remove the right hand mounting bracket (from the side the alternator was removed from).
  5. Remove the timing belt and timing belt guide. If the timing belt is to be reused, draw a directional arrow on the timing belt in the direction of engine rotation (clockwise) and place matchmarks on the timing belt and crankshaft gear.
  6. Remove the bolt retaining the No. 1 idler pulley and tension spring.
  7. Remove the No. 2 idler pulley.
  8. Remove the crankshaft timing gear , if it can not be removed by hand, use two flat bladed tools to pry it off. Make sure to position shop rags to prevent damages to the components.
  9. Remove the nut retaining the oil pump pulley.

To install:
  1. Align the cutouts of the oil pump pulley and shaft, and slide the pulley on. Retain the pulley while tightening the nut to 21 ft. lbs. (28 Nm).
  2. Align the crankshaft timing pulley set key with the key groove of the crankshaft pulley, then slide the pulley on.
  3. Install the No. 2 idler pulley with the bolt and tighten to 31 ft. lbs. (42 Nm). Be sure the pulley moves smoothly.


NOTE Remove any oil or water on the idler pulley and keep it clean.
  1. Temporarily install the No. 1 idler pulley with the retaining bolt. Hint: use a 1.65 inch (42mm) bolt in length. Do not tighten the bolt yet. Install the tension spring. Pry the pulley toward the left as far as it will go, then tighten the bolt.
  2. Turn the crankshaft until the key groove in the crankshaft timing pulley is facing upward. Install the timing belt on the crankshaft timing, oil pump, No. 2 idler and water pump pulleys.


NOTE If the old timing belt is being reinstalled, make sure the directional arrow is facing in the original direction and that the belt and crankshaft gear matchmarks are properly aligned.
  1. Install the lower (No. 1) timing belt cover and new gasket with the four bolts.
  2. Align the crankshaft pulley set key with the pulley key groove. Install the pulley. Tighten the pulley bolt to 80 ft. lbs. (108 Nm).
  3. Align the camshaft knock pin with the matchmarks on the oil seal retainer.
  4. Align the knock pin with the groove of the pulley, and slide the pulley onto the camshaft with the plate washer and set bolt.
  5. Tighten the set bolt to 27 ft. lbs. (37 Nm).
  6. Turn the crankshaft pulley and align the 0 mark on the lower (No. 1) timing belt cover.
  7. Install the timing belt and check the valve timing as follows:
    1. Align the matchmarks that you made previously, and install the timing belt onto the camshaft pulley.
    2. Loosen the No. 1 idler pulley set bolt 1 / 2 turn.
    3. Turn the crankshaft pulley two complete revolutions TDC to TDC. ALWAYS turn the crankshaft CLOCKWISE. Check that the pulleys are still in alignment with the timing marks.
    4. Tighten the No. 1 idler pulley set bolt to 31 ft. lbs. (42 Nm).
    5. Make sure there is belt tension between the crankshaft and camshaft timing pulleys.

  8. Install the upper (No. 2) timing cover with a new gasket(s).
  9. Align the two clamps for the engine wiring harness with the cover mounting bolts.
  10. Install the spark plugs.
  11. Install the right mounting insulator with bracket. Tighten the bracket bolts to 38 ft. lbs. (52 Nm), insulator nuts to 38 ft. lbs. (52 Nm) and thru-bolt to 52 ft. lbs. (71 Nm).
  12. Install the No. 2 engine mount bracket and tighten to 38 ft. lbs. (52 Nm); install the control rod and tighten the bolts to 47 ft. lbs. (64 Nm).
  13. Lower the engine.
  14. Install the alternator and alternator bracket.
  15. Install the drive belt and adjust the tension.
  16. Install the cruise control actuator with bracket.
  17. Install the fender apron seal and right engine under cover.
  18. Install the right front wheel.
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I have a 1999 Mercury Sable. A bearing in a pully loked up, think it was airconditioner but not sure, anyways the serpentine belt broke. Is this the timing belt? Can I put another belt on it without...

There is no problem with reinstalling the Serpetine Belt. But what have you done about the pulley that is locked up?

You need to find the bad pulley or you will smoke a belt before you leave the driveway. Unplug the wire on the A/C clutch pulley if the compressor is locked up. You need to do this because the A/C will cycle when the dash is set to Defrost setting as well as on AIR.

The idler pulley is the spring loaded tensioner. It is common to lock up. If this pulley is bad, you can keep using the A/C and just replace the Idler pulley.

Check the Alternator, water pump, anything that turns to find the lockup. The timing is done inside the engine with a steel timing chain and is not a part of the Serpetine belt.
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Procedure in changing timing belt

Timing Belt and Sprockets REMOVAL & INSTALLATION 2S-ELC, 3S-FE and 5S-FE Engines
  1. Remove the timing belt covers as previously detailed.
  2. Raise the engine just enough to remove the weight from the engine mount on the right side.
  3. Remove the thru-bolt, two nuts, and right hand mounting insulator.
  4. Remove the retaining bolts and remove the right hand mounting bracket (from the side the alternator was removed from).
  5. Remove the timing belt and timing belt guide. If the timing belt is to be reused, draw a directional arrow on the timing belt in the direction of engine rotation (clockwise) and place matchmarks on the timing belt and crankshaft gear.
  6. Remove the bolt retaining the No. 1 idler pulley and tension spring.
  7. Remove the No. 2 idler pulley.
  8. Remove the crankshaft timing gear , if it can not be removed by hand, use two flat bladed tools to pry it off. Make sure to position shop rags to prevent damages to the components.
  9. Remove the nut retaining the oil pump pulley. To install:
  10. Align the cutouts of the oil pump pulley and shaft, and slide the pulley on. Retain the pulley while tightening the nut to 21 ft. lbs. (28 Nm).
  11. Align the crankshaft timing pulley set key with the key groove of the crankshaft pulley, then slide the pulley on.
  12. Install the No. 2 idler pulley with the bolt and tighten to 31 ft. lbs. (42 Nm). Be sure the pulley moves smoothly. NOTE: Remove any oil or water on the idler pulley and keep it clean.
  13. Temporarily install the No. 1 idler pulley with the retaining bolt. Hint: use a 1.65 inch (42mm) bolt in length. Do not tighten the bolt yet. Install the tension spring. Pry the pulley toward the left as far as it will go, then tighten the bolt.
  14. Turn the crankshaft until the key groove in the crankshaft timing pulley is facing upward. Install the timing belt on the crankshaft timing, oil pump, No. 2 idler and water pump pulleys. NOTE: If the old timing belt is being reinstalled, make sure the directional arrow is facing in the original direction and that the belt and crankshaft gear matchmarks are properly aligned.
  15. Install the lower (No. 1) timing belt cover and new gasket with the four bolts.
  16. Align the crankshaft pulley set key with the pulley key groove. Install the pulley. Tighten the pulley bolt to 80 ft. lbs. (108 Nm).
  17. On 2S-ELC engines, turn the crankshaft pulley and align the 0 mark on the lower (No. 1) timing belt cover.
  18. Align the camshaft knock pin with the matchmarks on the oil seal retainer.
  19. On 2S-ELC/USA engines, align the knock pin with the pin hole on the timing pulley E mark side. On 2S-ELC/Canadian engines, align the knock pin with the pin hole on the timing pulley. On 3S-FE and 5S-FE engines, align the knock pin with the groove of the pulley, and slide the pulley onto the camshaft with the plate washer and set bolt. NOTE: On 2S-ELC engines, make sure that the Matchmark on the oil seal retainer and center hole of the small hole on the camshaft timing pulley are aligned.
  20. Using the removal tool to hold the pulley stationary, install and tighten the pulley set bolt to 40 ft. lbs. (54 Nm) on the 2S-ELC and the 3S-FE. On the 5S-FE, tighten the set bolt to 27 ft. lbs. (37 Nm).
  21. On 3S-FE and 5S-FE engines, turn the crankshaft pulley and align the 0 mark on the lower (No. 1) timing belt cover.
  22. Install the timing belt and check the valve timing as follows:
    1. Align the matchmarks that you made previously, and install the timing belt onto the camshaft pulley.
    2. Loosen the No. 1 idler pulley set bolt 1⁄2 turn.
    3. Turn the crankshaft pulley two complete revolutions TDC to TDC. ALWAYS turn the crankshaft CLOCKWISE. Check that the pulleys are still in alignment with the timing marks.
    4. Tighten the No. 1 idler pulley set bolt to 31 ft. lbs. (42 Nm).
    5. Make sure there is belt tension between the crankshaft and camshaft timing pulleys.
  23. Install the upper (No. 2) timing cover with a new gasket(s). On the 5S-FE, align the two clamps for the engine wiring harness with the cover mounting bolts.
  24. Install the spark plugs.
  25. The remainder of installation is the reverse of removal. Tighten each component to specifications.
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Timing belt replacement

Disconnect negative battery cable. Disconnect power
steering reservoir, and remove reservoir bracket.
Disconnect wire harness bracket for Data Link Conne
ctor No. 1. Remove generator and generator bracket.


Remove ABS actuator. Raise and support vehicle. Rem
ove right front wheel. Remove right engine
undercover. Remove power steering drive belt. Sligh
tly jack up engine and remove right engine mounting

insulator.

Remove spark plugs. Remove crankshaft pulley. . Remove right engine mounting bracket.
Remove No. 2 timing belt cover. . Temporarily install crankshaft pulley with pulle
y bolt. Set No.
1 cylinder to TDC on compression stroke. .

Loosen mounting bolt of No. 1 idler pulley and shif
t pulley toward left as far as it will go to reliev
e belt
tension. . Temporarily tighten idler pulley. Remove cranksh
aft pulley and No. 1 timing belt
cover.

If reusing timing belt, mark direction of rotation
on belt. Also place match marks on belt and camshaf
t
pulley. . Remove timing belt from engine.

NOTE:Always turn crankshaft clockwise.
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Need instructions to replace 1993 Toyota Camry Timing Belt

Hi Kmcarroll77

TIMING BELT REPLACEMENT - 2.2L -1993 Toyota Camry

Installation
1.Install No. 2 idler pulley (if removed). Install and tighten bolt to specification. See TORQUE SPECIFICATIONS . Ensure idler pulley is clean and rotates smoothly. 2.Install No. 1 idler pulley and tension spring (if removed). Pry No. 1 idler pulley away from timing belt area as far as possible. Temporarily tighten No. 1 idler pulley bolt. Ensure idler pulley is clean and rotates smoothly. 3.Using crankshaft pulley bolt, rotate crankshaft so timing mark on crankshaft sprocket aligns with timing mark on oil pump housing. See. This will position keyway in crankshaft sprocket at 12 o'clock position.

CAUTION:If reusing timing belt, ensure reference marks on timing belt align with reference marks placed on crankshaft and camshaft sprockets. Ensure timing belt is installed in original direction of rotation.
4.Ensure all sprockets and idler pulleys are clean. Install timing belt on crankshaft sprocket, oil pump sprocket, No. 1 idler pulley, and then No. 2 idler pulley in sequence. 5.Install timing belt guide with cupped side away from crankshaft sprocket and flat side toward timing belt. Install No. 1 timing belt cover and new gasket. 6.Align crankshaft pulley key groove with key in crankshaft. Install crankshaft pulley. Install and tighten crankshaft pulley bolt to specification. 7.Rotate crankshaft clockwise so cylinder No. 1 is at TDC on compression stroke. Ensure timing mark on crankshaft pulley aligns with "0" mark on No. 1 timing belt cover. If reusing timing belt, ensure reference mark on timing belt aligns with upper edge of No. 1 timing belt cover. 8.Rotate camshaft, and align hole in camshaft sprocket with alignment mark on camshaft bearing cap. See Fig. 2 . Install timing belt on camshaft sprocket. If reusing timing belt, ensure reference mark on timing belt aligns with the reference mark on camshaft sprocket. Ensure tension exists on timing belt between the crankshaft and camshaft sprockets.
CAUTION:DO NOT rotate crankshaft counterclockwise, as viewed from timing belt end of engine.
9.Loosen No. 1 idler pulley bolt 1/2 turn. Rotate crankshaft pulley 2 full revolutions clockwise from TDC to TDC. 10.Ensure timing mark on crankshaft pulley aligns with "0" mark on No. 1 timing belt cover, and hole in camshaft sprocket aligns with alignment mark on camshaft bearing cap. See Fig. 2 . If timing marks are not aligned, remove timing belt and reinstall. 11.Rotate crankshaft clockwise 1 and 7/8 revolutions and align crankshaft pulley "0" mark with 45-degree Before Top Dead Center (BTDC) mark on No. 1 timing belt cover. See Fig. 5 . 12.Tighten No. 1 idler pulley bolt to specification. See TORQUE SPECIFICATIONS . Install No. 2 timing belt cover and gaskets. Install and tighten spark plugs to specification. 13.To install remaining components, reverse removal procedure. Install all bolts/nuts on right (timing belt side) engine mount before tightening to specification. 14.On Camry, when installing control rod and bracket on strut tower and right (timing belt side engine mount, tighten bolts to specification in sequence. See Fig. 6 . On MR2, tighten engine
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Daewoo Leganza 2000 timing belt broke

Hi.
If the idler pulley, broke, with the car running, (I think is the most probable), There is no way to fix the car just replacing the timing belt and the idler pulley. This is an interference engine, that means if the timing belt or the idler pulley breaks, you need to replace the whole cylinder head, that's because the valves are bent. I just fix my daewoo, I tried first to just change the idler pulley and set up the time, but it did not work. I had to replace the whole head cylinder, timing belt and pulleys.

I got the information to set up the timing belt from a Library, The program is Mitchell on demand.

Thanks
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