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MB E200 Sunroof jammed

Sunroof is jammed in tilted position. Motor is receiving power and is activated ok by switch, however roof wont budge. The manual key even with max force wont budge it. I have had the car serviced and they managed to close it by taking out some parts. So, no leaks but would like to put the whole lot together and get it working again. Any ideas? Specaialist repair would prob cost as much as the car is worh - so diy solution is what i hope for. thx alot.

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E class merc power to motor but no action with glass can anyone help

Posted on Jun 15, 2011

There is some pic´s, maybe you find some help from there. http://www.detali.ru/cat/oem_mb2.asp?TP=1&F=210017&M=602.982&GA=722.605722.613&GM=717.460&CT=F&cat=45P&SID=78&SGR=045&SGN=01


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Sunroof will not close. Was working fine earlier today


The roof opening panel assembly uses an integrated motor and module to operate the roof opening panel. The roof opening panel motor and module are installed new as an assembly. The roof opening panel is an electronically operated glass panel that can be opened or closed by the roof opening panel switch. Actuating the switch in either a forward or rearward motion supplies a ground to the roof opening panel motor/module. The soft-stop function is controlled by the roof opening panel motor/module. The roof opening panel has 3 modes of operation, manual mode, express open and tilt. The express open feature is activated when the switch is pressed momentarily. The tilt feature is activated when the tilt switch is depressed. These functions are controlled by the roof opening panel motor/module.
Visual Inspection Chart Mechanical Electrical
  • Roof opening panel
  • Roof opening panel frame
  • Roof opening panel drain hoses
  • Roof opening panel lifter assemblies
  • Roof opening panel water trough
  • Roof opening panel rear trough guides
  • Roof opening panel air deflector assembly
  • Roof opening panel seal
  • Roof opening panel shield
  • Smart junction box (SJB) circuit breaker 47 (30A)
  • Circuitry
  • Accessory delay relay
  • Roof opening panel switch
  • The roof opening panel does not open or close - one direction only
  • Circuitry
  • Roof opening panel switch
  • Roof opening panel motor assembly
  • Go To Pinpoint Test E .
PINPOINT TEST E: THE ROOF OPENING PANEL DOES NOT OPEN OR CLOSE Test Step Result / Action to Take E1 CHECK THE ROOF OPENING PANEL LIFTER ASSEMBLIES FOR OBSTRUCTIONS OR DAMAGE
  • Check the roof opening panel lifter assemblies for obstructions and damage.
  • Are the roof opening panel lifter assemblies OK?
Yes
GO to E2 .

No
REMOVE all obstructions and REPAIR any damage. If lifter assemblies cannot be repaired, INSTALL a new roof opening panel frame. REFER to Roof Opening Panel Frame in this section. TEST the system for normal operation. E2 CHECK THE ROOF OPENING PANEL WATER TROUGH AND REAR TROUGH GUIDES
  • Check the water roof opening panel water trough and rear trough guides for any loose obstructions.
  • Are the roof opening panel water trough and rear trough guides installed securely and free from obstructions?
Yes
GO to E3 .

No
REMOVE all obstructions from the roof opening panel water trough and install securely. SECURE the rear trough guides or INSTALL new roof opening panel rear trough guides if damaged. REFER to Roof Opening Panel Rear Trough Guide in this section. TEST the system for normal operation. E3 VERIFY THE ROOF OPENING PANEL ADJUSTMENT
  • Verify the roof opening panel is adjusted correctly.
  • Is the roof opening panel adjusted correctly?
Yes
GO to E4 .

No
ADJUST the roof opening panel. REFER to Roof Opening Panel Alignment - Horizontal Adjustment and Roof Opening Panel Alignment - Height Adjustment in this section. TEST the system for normal operation. E4 CHECK THE ROOF OPENING PANEL MOTOR/MODULE FOR INITIALIZATION
    NOTE: The roof opening panel motor initialization procedure must be done when repairs are carried out on any part of the roof opening panel assembly, including whenever the roof opening panel motor/module has been removed from the roof opening panel assembly, a new roof opening panel motor/module has been installed or when a new roof opening panel assembly has been installed. Refer to Roof Opening Panel Motor Initialization in this section.
  • Carry out the Roof Opening Panel Motor Initialization procedure. Refer to Roof Opening Panel Motor Initialization in this section.
  • If the concern still present?
Yes
GO to E5 .

No
The system is operating correctly. The roof opening panel motor/module was uninitialized. E5 CHECK THE POWER WINDOWS
  • Key in ON position.
  • Verify the power windows operate.
  • Do the power windows operate?
Yes
GO to E6 .

No
REFER to Section 501-11 to diagnose the accessory delay relay circuit. E6 CHECK THE ROOF OPENING PANEL SWITCH
  • Carry out the roof opening panel switch component test. Refer to Wiring Diagrams Cell 149 for schematic and connector information.
  • Did the roof opening panel switch pass the component test?
Yes
GO to E7 .

No
INSTALL a new roof opening panel switch. TEST the system for normal operation. E7 CHECK CIRCUIT CBP47 (GN/BU) FOR VOLTAGE
  • Key in OFF position.
  • Disconnect: Roof Opening Panel Motor/Module C922.
  • Key in ON position.
  • Measure the voltage between roof opening panel motor/module C922-4, circuit CBP47 (GN/BU), harness side and ground.
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  • Is the voltage greater than 9 volts but less than 16 volts?
Yes
GO to E8 .

No
VERIFY the smart junction box (SJB) circuit breaker 47 (30A) is OK. If OK, REPAIR the circuit. TEST the system for normal operation. E8 CHECK CIRCUIT GD143 (BK/VT) FOR AN OPEN
  • Key in OFF position.
  • Measure the resistance between roof opening panel motor/module C922-3, circuit GD143 (BK/VT), harness side and ground.
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  • Is the resistance less than 5 ohms?
Yes
GO to E9 .

No
REPAIR the circuit. TEST the system for normal operation. E9 CHECK CIRCUITS CPR37 (YE/GY), CPR39 (VT/WH) AND CPR40 (YE/OG) FOR AN OPEN
  • Disconnect: Roof Opening Panel Switch C930.
  • Measure the resistance between the roof opening panel motor/module C922-1, circuit CPR40 (YE/OG), harness side and roof opening panel switch C930-8, circuit CPR40 (YE/OG), harness side. Measure the resistance between roof opening panel motor/module C922-2, circuit CPR39 (VT/WH), harness side and roof opening panel switch C930-11, circuit CPR39 (VT/WH), harness side. Measure the resistance between roof opening panel motor/module C922-5, circuit CPR37 (YE/GY), harness side and roof opening panel switch C930-14, circuit CPR37 (YE/GY), harness side.
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  • Are the resistances less than 5 ohms?
Yes
GO to E10 .

No
REPAIR the circuit. TEST the system for normal operation. E10 CHECK FOR CORRECT ROOF OPENING PANEL MOTOR/MODULE OPERATION
  • Disconnect the roof opening panel motor/module connectors.
  • Check for:
    • corrosion.
    • pushed-out pins.
  • Connect all roof opening panel motor/module connectors and make sure they seat correctly.
  • Operate the system and verify that the concern is still present.
  • Is the concern still present?
Yes
CHECK the jumper harness between the vehicle harness and the roof opening panel for open or shorted circuits. If the jumper harness is not OK, INSTALL a new jumper harness between the vehicle harness to the roof opening panel motor/module. Otherwise, INSTALL a new roof opening panel module/motor. REFER to Roof Opening Panel Motor in this section. TEST the system for normal operation.

No
The system is operating correctly at this time. Concern may have been caused by a loose or corroded connector. TEST the system for normal operation.

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2002 Jaguar XType Sun-roof one-touch operations reset


I had this issue and found the solution around, worth sharing and it takes 30 seconds: <br /> <span> <li>Press the sunroof switch forward to move the sliding roof panel into the tilted position.</li> <li>Release the sunroof switch.</li> <li>Press and hold the sunroof switch forward until the sliding roof panel moves slightly. This may take 30 seconds or more.</li> <li>Release the sunroof switch.</li> <li>Immediately press and hold the sunroof switch in the forward position. The sliding roof panel will move down and rearward to the open position, and then forward into the closed position. Do not release the sunroof switch until the sliding roof panel has stopped completely.</i></li> <li>Your sunroof panel should now be aligned.</li></span>

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Check the RAP fuse in the rear fuse box , this fuse powers the sunroof control module ! Fuse Block - Rear , Left rear of the passenger compartment, under the rear seat .
The sunroof module contains the logic for the opening and the closing of the sunroof. The sunroof motor assembly contains the reversible DC drive motor, the gear train, and the limit switch.
The sunroof module determines the sunroof motor direction based on inputs received from the overhead console sunroof switches. When the ignition switch is in the ON position or when retained accessory power (RAP) is active, voltage is applied to the sunroof module via the RAP relay. For a description and operation of the RAP system, refer to Retained Accessory Power (RAP) Description and Operation in Retained Accessory Power. The sunroof module controls the sunroof motor direction by changing the polarity of the applied voltage. The sunroof module remembers the sunroof position whenever the ignition switch is turned to the OFF position. The limit switch is used as an input to the sunroof module to indicate that the glass is fully closed, or in the comfort stop positions. The limit switch is grounded when the sunroof glass is in the fully closed or comfort stop positions, otherwise it is open.
The SLIDE CLOSE mode is initiated by moving and holding the sunroof slide switch (ROOF) forward. This applies a ground provided from the sunroof limit switch low reference circuit to the sunroof switch close vent signal input of the sunroof module. The sunroof module controls voltage to the control circuits of the sunroof motor. The sunroof motor will run until the limit switch contacts are closed. The closing of the limit switch will apply the sunroof limit switch low reference circuit to the sunroof limit switch soft stop signal circuit to the sunroof module, indicating the flush closed position has been reached. As the sunroof is approaching the close position the sunroof glass will force the wind deflector downward.
You need to have a factory scan tool hooked up an have it checked for DTC'S in the sunroof control module ! a code reader will not do this , a code reader will only check the engine codes for OBD 2 .
Important: The following must be completed before using the symptom tables.
  1. Perform Diagnostic System Check - Power Sunroof in order to verify that all of the following are true:
  2. ?€¢
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    The control modules can communicate via the serial data link.

  3. Review the system operation in order to familiarize yourself with the system functions. Refer to Sunroof Description and Operation
your better off taking to the dealer !

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2009 kia borego sunroof won't close


a jeep KIA? really?
if you post to KIA and not Jeep, answers are 10 faster and 100 times
more accurate. if at all.
all sun roofs.
1: check fuses
2: check voltage at roof motor. (active.) ( if no 12vdc hot wire the motor , does it close now? if no 12vdc the switch(relay) is bad.
3: remove trim and check the mechanism for jamming.
4: remove motor and try to move the drive , by hand, if you can it will close, if you can't, its jammed. if jammed find cause of jam.


for 100x better advice? read the FSM. (kia FSM on your car)
or login to ALLDATA.com com and read the sunroof chapter.

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Sunroof stuck in tilted open position altho motor has power


it probly cam off track if u can get something in there to push it along a little it will probly go down

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Recently replaced the battery in my wife's 04 Solara. Now the sunroof will not work "automatically" like it did before. I now have to hold the button, when I only had to press and hold for a second before....


INITIALIZATION
1. INITIALIZATION OF SLIDING ROOF MOTOR
(a) The sliding roof AUTO operation and the jam protection function may not operate normally if the battery
is disconnected/reconnected, replaced or recharged. Initialize the sliding roof system using the method
below.
(1) Turn the ignition switch ON.
(2) Initialize the sliding roof by pressing and holding the TILT UP switch until the roof glass tilts upward
fully (the roof glass automatically tilts downward slightly after fully tilting upward).
(3) Release the switch.
HINT:
If the battery terminal is disconnected, the moon roof control ECU may not detect the position of the roof
glass. If the sliding roof AUTO operation is still disabled even after the sliding roof drive gear has been initialized,
the hall IC may be malfunctioning. The hall IC is built into the sliding roof drive gear and detects the
roof glass position.
If the result is not as specified, replace the drive gear assy (moon roof control ECU).

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Ok Ken... there are two cables which run parallel between the sunroof motor gear. Seems to me one of those cables (the one that runs to the 'right') is damaged/stripped and is not raising the roof on that side. Remove the overhead map light assy & then remove the sunroof motor & inspect the cables.. bet you'll find the problem there.

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The roof slides along a channel actuated by a coiled cord.

Both of the cords pass along a gear attached to the Sunroof motor which pulles the cord tooth by tooth.

There are two plastic wedges that drop into the plastic slides on the sunroof (the plastic slides are behind the more forward metal slides.)

The plastic slides control the tilt of the roof when moved independantly. The plastic wedges join them.

If the roof moves too far back, it is possible for the wedges to stick up and jam the roof open.

This should never happen, but could if the two micro switches on the sunroof motor assy fail to provide feedback to the controller indicating the roofs position.

Access to the Sunroof motor requires you to drop the headliner.

To drop the headliner, the plastic pillar shrouds need to be removed front and back, the seatbelt bolts in the middle secion need to be removed, the oh-**** handle, the front visors, and cabin lights.

3 bolts hold the motor up.

With the motor down you can try* to manually actuate the cords using a flat screwdriver, but move the left and right side evenly a tooth at a time.

Of course of the plastic wedges are jammed, it's not going to budge.

Hope the info is helpful. good luck!

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Sunroofs off track and wont close


If your indicating the roof is crooked, that's odd... The roof slides along a channel actuated by a coiled cord.

Both of the cords pass along a gear attached to the Sunroof motor which pulles the cord tooth by tooth, impossible to go crooked unless really jammed or tampered with.

There are two plastic wedges that drop into the plastic slides on the sunroof (the plastic slides are behind the more forward metal slides.)

The plastic slides control the tilt of the roof when moved independantly. The plastic wedges join them.

If the roof moves too far back, it is possible for the wedges to stick up and jam the roof open.

This should never happen, but could if the two switches on the gear fail and no longer provide feedback to the controller indicating the roofs position.

Access to the Sunroof motor requires you to drop the headliner.

To drop the headliner, the plastic pillar shrouds need to be removed front and back, the seatbelt bolts in the middle secion need to be removed, the oh-**** handle, the front visors, and cabin lights.

Hope the info is helpful.

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Sun roof does not work


Dear cz50001: there are only a few things that you, a weekend warrior can do to diagnose and/or fix the problem on your car.
Unfortunately the newer cars get, the more complex they get.
Unfortunately, your car is one which falls in the more complex category. Your car is designed with a "BODY CONTROL MODULE". This little gem gets input from nearly every electrical component in the car including the sunroof. In terms of what you can do to check it out: The fuse box inside the car has roughly 24 fuses positioned vertically 12x12. The fuse located at the lower left side of the box is a 10A "red in color" is for the sunroof. Remove it and look through it to see if it has been burned through the center. If it has, replace it and try the sun roof. If the fuse blows again, you have a short and it would be best left to a professional.
There is another set of circumstances which can occur that will render the sunroof inoperable. If the battery is disconnected or if the sunroof motor had been disconnected, the sunroof will stop operating. To reset the sunroof memory, with the key in the on position, push and hold the sunroof tilt switch in the forward (up) position until the sunroof is fully vented (tilted up) position. It should at that point operate normally. Should those two suggestions not solve your problem, it requires either a dealership with a specialized tool called CONSULT-11 to communicate with the BCM. There are some specialty shops such as mine equipped to deal with your car as well. However, most can not address this type of problem without this diagnostic tool. Good luck.

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