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My Vitara Vibrates just above Idle and worse under a load. I took it to a mechanic and he changed the timing chains, tensioners and guides. Then he replaced to motor mounts with aftermarket parts. The problem still is not fixed. Do you have any suggestions on how to fix it.

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It could be a problem with miss firing. if it vibrates, one cylinder could be not firing and specially with a load.

try to check you spark plugs and replace if possible.

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