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New starter or Manual Positioning lever shifter?

Over last month car wouldn't start 4 different times. all the power goes on when I stick the key in. when I turned the key nothing would happen. I didn't hear a click either. I was told it is the starter and quoted $1000 to fix. 4.5 hours of labor. last week it didn't start and four hours later I tried to start the truck. It wouldn't start and then I shifted the gear from park to D1 back up to park....it started. Someone now said it could bethe Manual Positioning Lever shifter? Suggestions?

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  • richolsen71 Sep 07, 2008

    The GMC Dealer was going to charge me $1000 dollars here in Elgin. I think they were looking to make a quick buck. Your responses will be looked into. thank you

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Sounds like the Park Neutral safety switch. Its located on the drivers side of the transmission on the selector shaft. It keeps the engine from starting in anything but park and neutral. It may just need an adjustment. There are two or three 13mm bolts holding it to the trans. Try lossening those bolts a bit and pulling the front of the switch down a bit. Then try it. It may take a few times to get it right.

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You might have the shift lever a little loose and it isn't moving all the way into park. Look up under the dash and find the first joint that the lever is attached too and tighten up any loose bolts.

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I think the starter is not the problem, if it were a starter issue it would make a click, and while I am on the subject of the starter, whoever told you it takes 4.5 flat rate hours to change your starter is just plain ignorant, $1000.00?? hum I think I would find another shop, I checked the price of a rebuilt starter, AC Delco is $156.00.
Back to the issue of no start, you are right the problem is most likely the neutral safety switch, they are about $40.00 at Rockauto.com, ACDELCO Part # D2263C

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